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Name
Fred Schaeffer
Material Format
sound recording
Interview Date
11 July 1980
Source
Oral Histories
Name
Fred Schaeffer
Number
AC 024
Subject
Small communities
Immigrants--Canada
Interview Date
11 July 1980
Quantity
1
Interviewer
Stephen Speisman
Total Running Time
Side 1: 31 minutes
Side 2: 9 minutes
Conservation
Copied August 2003
Use Restrictions
Copyright is held by the Ontario Jewish Archives. Please contact the Archives to obtain permission prior to use.
Biography
Fred Schaeffer's wife, Beverley, grew up in Kirkland Lake, Ontario. Beverley's grandfather, Hyman Kaplan, emigrated from Vilna, Lithuania in 1907, and after a few years in New York, moved to Toronto. Shortly afterwards he became the first Jew to settle in Kirkland Lake in 1914.
In the 1920s the Jewish community in Kirkland Lake built a permanent synagogue, and acquired the Aron Kodesh of Eastern European design, its lamps, railings, pews and reader’s desk, from the disbanded Ukrainishe Shul in Montreal. In the 1970s the Kirkland Lake Synagogue disbanded and Fred and Beverly Schaeffer acquired the Aron Kodesh, all of its furnishings, the Ner Tamid and the Parochet. They generously donated these Jewish artifacts to Beth Tikvah Synagogue, Toronto, in 1988, in memory of Isadore Kaplan, father of Beverly Schaeffer and Erich Schaeffer, father of Fred Schaeffer.
Fred, married Beverley in Toronto. Like many children from Kirkland Lake, Beverley had moved to the city to attend university. Fred and Beverley are keen collectors of Canadian art. He is a retired civil engineer and a former chairman of the Canadian art historical committee at the AGO.
Material Format
sound recording
Name Access
Schaeffer, Fred
Geographic Access
Krugerdorf, Ont.
Timmins, Ont.
Kirkland Lake, Ont.
Swastika, Ont.
Ansonville, Ont.
Original Format
Audio cassette
Copy Format
Audio cassette
Digital file
Transcript
AC 024: Side A
0.14: Fred discusses the first Jews to settle in Northern Ontario in the area around Krugerdorf/Engelhart. He mentions Edith Atkinson (nee Martin) as a good primary source of information. Edith’s father, a Russian Jew who came to Canada via Scotland was employed by Temagami and Northern Ontario Railway to bring Russian Jews to work on the railroad.
1.11: Atkinson is related to Atkins and Etkins families.
2.25: Jewish families received land patents in the area of Krugerdorf (north of Engelhart).
2.44: Kurtz family started a hotel in Engelhart in 1908.
3.07: Mentions some of the earliest Jewish settlers. Gurevitch, Korman, Martin, Henerovsky, Purkiss
4.18: Women farmed during the week while the men worked on the railroad. Men came home on weekend.
5.05: Mentions a diary written by Mr. Martin, Edith Atkinson’s father.
5.42: Earliest records in Jewish cemetery in Krugerdorf were 1906. Relates a story involving a canoe accident. Tells a brief history of the cemetery.
8.00: Railway started to develop in 1908/9 with the opening of the mines in Timmins. Many Jews followed the railroad.
8.45: Mentions that the Purkiss family opened a chain of stores in every town that opened.
9.25: Mentions that the Bucavetsky family was well-known in Timmins.
9.58: Jews had settled in Cochrane.
10.16: First Rabbi in Timmins was Shulman.
11.15: Fred discusses early community organizations. One synagogue on a farm in Krugerdorf area. One synagogue in Engelhart that burnt down. Synagogue in Kirkland Lake built in 1926. Minyans were held in Cochrane and Ansonville (1918/19). Timmins synagogue dates back to 1910/12.
17.15: Fred describes Iroquois Falls as an Abitibi company town. Jews who ran businesses lived in nearby Ansonville.
18.02: Fred notes that there were many prominent Jews in Northern Ontario. He names several and describes their positions. (e.g.Dave Korman as Mayor of Engelhart, Rothschild was alderman in Cochrane, Barnie (?) Nasoff was on council and was Reeve of Ansonville, Max Kaplan Kirkland Lake council, Nicky Korman was Mayor).
21.11: Fred relates anecdotes about Roza Brown, the first Jew in Swastika / Kirkland area.
23.36: Fred relates anecdotes about Hyman and Max Kaplan (brothers-in-law) who ran businesses in Kirkland Lake.
25.26: Rabbi Rabinowitch was a long-standing rabbi in Kirkland Lake.
27.26: Discusses the demise /closure of the synagogue in Kirkland Lake. Remained open until 1979. Last Rosh HaShana services were held in 1977.
28.05: Discusses the situation with the Timmins Jewish community.
30.05: Discusses the plight of a poor Jewish family, the Mallins.
AC 024: Side B
0.15: Fred suggests some reference material. “Northland Post” – good source for info about Jewish community in Northern Ontario. “Silverland” – book that describes Kurt’s Hotel. Special edition of a newspaper that published an article on the history of the Jewish community.
1.48: The Jews of the North have themselves as self-sufficient community during the 1920s, 30s and 40s. They were represented in the first Jewish Congress.
3.33: Fred notes that there was a Jewish presence in most towns in Northern Ontario. He suggest that Haileybury may have been the exception due to antisemitic sentiments.
4.10: Mentions a fire in Haileybury in 1916/17 and the Jewish contribution to fire relief.
4.25: Relates an anecdote re. Hyman Kaplan and Haileybury.
5.48: Describes the location of a few small communities (Elk Lake, Charlton)
Source
Oral Histories

In this clip, Fred Schaeffer and Stephen Speisman discuss some of the earliest synagogues established in Northern Ontario.

In this clip, Fred Schaeffer relates colourful anecdotes about the first Jewish settler in the Swastika-Kirkland area, Roza Brown.

Name
Barney and Tillie Nosov [with Wilfred Kideckel]
Material Format
sound recording
Interview Date
22 September 1975
Source
Oral Histories
Name
Barney and Tillie Nosov [with Wilfred Kideckel]
Number
AC 011
Subject
Religion
Personal and family life
Interview Date
22 September 1975
Quantity
1
Interviewer
Fred Schaeffer
Total Running Time
side 1: 43:39 minutes
side 2: 43:36 minutes
Conservation
Copied August 2003
Notes
Most of the interview is conducted with Barney Nosov. Wilfred Kideckel is also featured on the tape, and Tillie Nosov is interviewed briefly.
Use Restrictions
Copyright is held by the Ontario Jewish Archives. Please contact the Archives to obtain permission prior to use.
Conditional access. Researchers must receive permission from the interviewee or his/her heir prior to accessing the interview. Please contact the OJA for more information.
Biography
Barney Nosov arrived in Canada in 1916. Nosov lived in Ansonville, Ontario. He was a merchant, owned a store, and was also in politics for many years.
Wilfred Kideckel was born in Kreugerdorf on a farm in 1917. His father was one of the first immigrants to the area. Kideckel had 10 people in his family. He moved to Ansonville and got married. Kideckel moved to Toronto in 1942.
Material Format
sound recording
Name Access
Nosov, Barney
Nosov, Tillie
Kideckel, Wilfred
Geographic Access
Kriegerdorf, Ont.
Cochrane, Ont.
Cobalt, Ont.
Ansonville, Ont.
Original Format
Audio cassette
Copy Format
Audio cassette
Transcript
AC 011: SIDE 1
BARNEY NOSOV
0.24: Nosov talks about how he came to Ansonville, Ontario. Talks about his aunt, Mrs. Perkiss?
1.14: Nosov talks about the families in Cochrane – was about 6 families. Rothchild, Kurtzer? Perkiss, Bernstein. Rothchild’s son was mayor at that time.
2.16: First Jewish people in Cochrane were peddlers. Cochrane is close to Cobalt, which had more Jews.
3.29: Nosov arrived in Canada in 1916. Opened a store in 1917.
4.37: Nosov talks about other Jewish families who were there when he arrived, and who came later. Mentions Korman.
5.18: There was religious instruction at that time; was a cheder; Korman was a teacher.
5.46: 1922 Korman decided to build a synagogue. Was about 16 Jewish families at that time.
6.44: Rabbi Gordon donated a sefer Torah .
7.25: Nosov tells a story about the Lubachitcher Rabbi.
8.10: Nosov talks about children being sent (conscripted?) into the army [unsure where this took place]. When the children were allowed to leave the army, they all prayed at a specific synagogue.
9.56: Nosov talks about a synagogue located on Synagogue Street.
10.52: Nosov talks about the synagogue they built. Rabbi was named Rabinovitch.
11.44: Congregation functioned until 1930, and then Nosov sold the building.
11.55: Nosov talks about himself – he was a merchant, owned a general store, was in politics. Nosov was a councilor for many years from 1930 to 1944.
13.43: Nosov explains how he got started in politics – he felt discriminated against in business, so he decided to tell the public what was going on. He ran for fun; never believed he would even get elected.
16.25: Nosov talks about antisemitism
19.43: Nosov tells a story to describe the antisemitism. a Jewish dentist wanted to go to a small town (Hansville?). Came to Nosov’s store and Nosov told him he had no chance of getting a job, because he was Jewish. No Jewish dentists allowed in that time. They would rather have no dentist at all in town.
22.23: Nosov talks about the first mayor of Ansonville who was a gentile; used to hire Jews in early 1920s.
23.18: Nosov talks about talked about a farming settlement in Kreugerdorf (most settlers there were Russian immigrants)
25.25: Kreuger was a German (not Jewish), and he taught people how to work the land. That’s why the land is named Kreugerdorf
WILFRED KIDECKEL
Born in Kreugerdorf on a farm in 1917. His father was one of the original immigrants. Family of 10. Doesn’t have too many memories of the farm.
26.57: Kideckel talks about how his father got to Krugerdorf (thought he would get free land).
27.45: Kideckel talks about Jewish life in Kriegerdorf. Talks about how his father used to chop wood in return for someone teaching his children to read Hebrew. Still a cemetery there, but no people living there.
28.57: Kideckel moved to Ansonville, got married, moved to Toronto in 1942.
30.17: [no sound audible for the rest of the recording]
43.39: End
AC 011: SIDE 2
TILLIE NOSOV
0.08: Nosov came to farm in Kreugerdorf in 1906. Maiden name Abromson?, 11 children in her family.
0.59: Nosov talks about her childhood and her family; what her house looked like.
2.15: Nosov talks about her father working on the railroad and on the farm.
2.54: Nosov talks about what she did on the farm; life on the farm; religious life on the farm. People kept kosher; women’s roles on the farm equal to men.
WILFRED KIDECKEL
4.33: Kideckel talks about inter-dating – the Jewish mayor used to discourage it.
5.05: [no sound audible for the rest of the recording]
43.36: End
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Oral Histories

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